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Friday, March 16, 2012

Church Leaders Who Permit Carnality and False Conversions



Woe [be] to the shepherds Eze 34:2

Dear Saints,
I saw this short video today and I must say Paul Washer explains exactly what the condition is in most of the institutional churches because of pastors who refuse to shepherd and feed the flock according to the word of God. Read Ezekiel 34 pastors!





 
Church Leaders Who Permit Carnality 
 


False Conversions

The tragic issue of "false conversions" goes hand in hand with the lack of godly leadership in the churches as the video above points out. The Lord has been revealing to me that false conversions are what He was showing me in my dream from 2008 about the violation of the sheep. Click here and here to read both posts I did about the dream.

A fuller understanding of this subject is very important for Christians in this hour where great deception is abounding just as we were warned.

Jesus warns- Mat 24: 4, 5, 10, 11, 24
Paul warns- Acts 20:29-30, 1 Tim 4:1-22 Timothy 3:1-22 Tim 4:1-5
John warns- 2 John 1:9-10
Jude warns- Jude 1:1-4, Jude 17-19

Please read this excellent series of short articles about "False Conversions" and "Decisional Regeneration" by Gregory D. Metcalf. He has done an excellent job of identifying and expounding on this terrible problem and how it occurs.






Part 6

Most importantly brethren, I urge each of you to examine yourselves and make sure that you are truly in the faith. I don't say that to offend or frighten anyone into thinking they might not be saved. I say this because it is the most important issue in our life and we must have confidence that our salvation is according to the Bible's standard and not to the standards set by men. Salvation is a work of the Holy Spirit and if there is no regeneration of the old man into a new man, then what is really going on?

In Christ, Sarah


18 comments:

  1. Isn't conversion God's job, though? I get a bit confused sometimes about where we are coming from when on one hand, we say salvation is all of HIM, but on the other, we bemoan the state of the institutional church.

    Aren't we to come out of Babylon so to speak?


    What are your thoughts, Sarah?

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  2. Hi Ma- My understanding is that salvation is a work of the Holy Spirit and it clearly says in the word that no man comes to the son unless the father draws him. John 6:44.

    I believe that the pastors should have enough discernment to know how to teach and counsel his flock to understand Biblical salvation, pray over them and then let the Holy Spirit do His work. There is a natural organic way salvation comes about and I know because it happened to me.
    God bless!

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  3. People should think of true salvation as a true wedding/marriage to Christ. Married couples don't say, "I was married on July 10th 1985, but I haven't seen my wife since. We live in separate houses in different towns in different states; she lives on the west coast and I live on the east coast." Sorry, but that isn't a marriage. It is a marriage in name only; essentially it is not a marriage.

    Yes, there was a day when I asked Christ into my life, but I ABIDE IN HIM EVERY DAY. I abide in the True Vine every day. I have met so many "Christians" who said that they were saved on such and such a day, but they are spiritually dead and they are still conformed to the world--their conversation is of the world, they could care less about the things of God. You will know them by their fruit--are they spiritually dead or are they spiritually alive?

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  4. You may want to read this sometime:

    "Satanic Christians"
    http://tim-shey.blogspot.com/2011/02/satanic-christians.html

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  5. Here is a good Scripture from Jeremiah:

    Jeremiah 10: 21: "For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered."

    In the above Scripture, "prosper" primarily means spiritual prosperity, which means we should be seeking the Kingdom of Heaven first.

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  6. I am humbled and shocked you include my series. Thank you, I am so honored.

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  7. H Gregg- I think it is a great series and it has helped to open my eyes and brought confirmation about things that I have been learning. Thanks for writing your blog and keep it up!
    I just want to add that it was Chris Pinto who really brought to my attention that it was Billy Graham who really started the whole "say a prayer and make a confession of faith" at his crusades. Probably a follower of Charles Finney?? (not sure) Graham was also the one responsible for bringing ecumenism to Christianity in a big way by having the Catholic church involved in his crusades.

    It is pretty shocking when you start to peel the onion layers back and look a little deeper and see the truth. Thank the Lord there are still some great Christians out there who will not compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    God bless, Sarah

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  8. Yes, I include Graham in tomorrows final post. You might want to read it.

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  9. It is interesting, Sarah, that you mentioned Charles Finney. Here is an article you might want to read on Finney:

    "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing"
    http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/articles/finney.htm

    I worked for and tried to have fellowship with a guy who loved Charles Finney. This guy had tons of Bible head knowledge, but he rejected Christ; I think he tried to emulate Finney. He once told me that God did not reveal things to mankind and that the Bible was the only revelation that we had. "The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."

    John 5: 39-40: "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life."

    A lot of Christians are into Bible Verse Idolatry: they miss Christ for the Bible verses.

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    1. John 5: 39-40: "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life."

      A lot of Christians are into Bible Verse Idolatry: they miss Christ for the Bible verses.


      I think so, too.

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  10. Hi Sarah,
    This seems to be a recurring theme right now. I read a good post on this topic by Rory O Moore in his blog. http://preparinghisway.blogspot.com

    It appears that more and more people are beginning to hear the call to come out but I also know that it is all too easy for the sheep to feel the need to clamor to something else to take the place of their "church" habit. I call this the danger zone where people are easily scooped up into yet more false doctrine disguised as a "new" thing. We don't need a new thing, we need the original thing which is Christ Jesus. Keep sharing!
    In Christ, Meema

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  11. Sarah: In the above article about Charles Finney ("A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing"), it was written by a Calvinist. I am not a Calvinist. I don't believe in the total depravity of the will.

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  12. Jeremiah 12: 10-11: "Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness. They have made it desolate, and being desolate it mourneth unto me; the whole land is made desolate, because no man layeth it to heart."

    The sin of false conversions and false Christianity (idolatry) poisons the earth.

    Jeremiah 13: 17: "But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the LORD’S flock is carried away captive."

    "David Wilkerson--A Call to Anguish": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGMG_PVaJoI&context=C424ba99ADvjVQa1PpcFNkQwfoqhsLHTqvVwONIjo0BuS_NnVC_s0=

    Jeremiah 14: 7-9: "O LORD, though our iniquities testify against us, do thou it for thy name’s sake: for our backslidings are many; we have sinned against thee. O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night? Why shouldest thou be as a man astonied, as a mighty man that cannot save? yet thou, O LORD, art in the midst of us, and we are called by thy name; leave us not."

    The Lord is a stranger to false Christianity. The Lord wanders from place to place looking for a congregation of true believers, but He finds none and moves on. The Lord is a stranger in a strange land. "I never knew you, you who work iniquity."

    Jeremiah 14: 13-14: "Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place. Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart."

    NOTICE WHAT JEREMIAH DID NOT SAY: "This is your best life now!"

    Jeremiah 14: 17: "Therefore thou shalt say this word unto them; Let mine eyes run down with tears night and day, and let them not cease: for the virgin daughter of my people is broken with a great breach, with a very grievous blow."

    The great breach is that false Christians put their trust in man-centered religion and not in the Lord Jesus Christ.

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  13. "The Hidden Streets of Babylon"
    http://tim-shey.blogspot.com/2011/01/hidden-streets-of-babylon.html

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  14. It breaks my heart to see people flock to the altar for salvation then never hear about holiness or deliverance. Many are addicted to drugs, alcohol, pornography, etc. and I've seen them fall back into the world and deep into sin again. The pastors keep them on their church roll and "Wow! Look at how our numbers are increasing!" All the while losing track of those lost sheep and when you want to help they tell you to mind your own business. I am just as guilty for letting them go. I'm sick of playing church and seeing the devil reclaim his flock. So from now on I am making it my business. I know where I'd be if others had not dragged me out of the mire and ministered to me. We need each other, people. Pastors cannot do the job alone, so let's get in there and hold our brothers' arms up and help each other win the battle!

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    1. Hi Lindy- it breaks my heart also- The Lord has so much more for us than what some people are settling for.
      God bless!

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  15. Some of these churches I've been to, remind me of Matthew 23:27's "whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones..." - All the formality of rituals, but without the miracles or the presence of the Holy Spirit.

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    1. Hi Dreamsofdumanis- I agree- many are just temples of whitewashed religion and the buildings are made of untempered mortar. Eze 13:10-15

      Thanks for your comment and God bless you!

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